Off topic

[Skotten]

I'm listening to vi skal slukke brann!

[Good Apollo]

Music has been the light of my life ever since I wrecked all my mothers washbuckets while pretending to play the drums to Åge Aleksandersen at the age of 4. And I've been a touring musician my whole adult life.
Really like this thread, Gerrit. It's interesting to learn what kind of music RBKwebs forum-users like (and dislike). I hope more people will pitch in.
Well, the many genres of alternative music generally for me, mostly punk/hardcore/metal.
Here goes..: Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed & Cambria, NOFX, Propagandhi, Atreyu, Thrice, Alexisonfire, Weezer, The Bronx, Primal Scream, The Haunted, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, The Rolling Stones (of course), Sublime, Anthrax, Incubus, The Ramones, Muse, Radiohead (old stuff), Slade (my first taste of rockmusic as a kid, along with Helloween), Ryan Adams, Trivium, Wolfmother, Shai Hulud, At the Drive-In, Alkaline Trio, Randy, The Roots, LoopTroop, Grandaddy, Lagwagon... Aah, that's enough for now. But there's always more.

[Gerrit]

Not sure if they're known in Scandinavia, but does anyone know Snow Patrol? They're the latest musical icons from my adopted home country Northern Ireland (the band was formed in Scotland but all key members are from Northern Ireland, they were studying in Dundee when they met but they are considered Northern Irish)

They scored their first hit a few years back and have become seriously popular here in the UK and Ireland ; they even opened for U2 two years ago, and are very likely to become headliner of the biggest Irish music festival (which will see them perform for over 50000 people).

This country hasn't had many good bands (a few though... Stiff Little Fingers and The Undertones for example - and some may like Therapy? although I'm not that much into them) and compared to 'Southern Ireland' the scene here isn't that good ; but Snow Patrol are really good.

Here's a video of one of their most iconic songs, "Run": http://www.youtube.com/wa...Qen3Xovtfc

Light up, light up, as if you have a choice
Even if you cannot hear my voice,
I'll be right beside you dear

Apparently, according to the singer, it was written about someone he liked but who died. Very emotional song, reminds me of a couple of girls I knew
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[HeiaVincent]

Are teenage dreams so hard to beat?

The Undertones kick ass. Apart from that, I admire the drum & bass produver and dj Calibre, among the most innovative artists in the d&b scene.
_________________
4-4-3

[Gerrit]

The beauty about the Undertones was that this music came right out of the most divided city in Northern Ireland... Derry/Londonderry at that time was a true war zone with riots, fights and gun shots every day. And right out of that city, came a band singing about girls, dating and other normal things, avoiding every political undertone. To me, "Teenage Kicks" has always been a sort of tune that proves that even in the most depressing environments on earth, people will have normal desire and dreams and will get on with their lives, "Teenage Kicks" is a bit of a proof that normal dreams will never disappear even in the most troubled environments. The band these days still tours by the way, though with a different singer as Feargal Sharkey didn't want to join the re-formed Undertones.

Also interesting is that the Undertones had a serious argument with Belfast based Stiff Little Fingers, another punk band but one with very explicit lyrics about the Northern Ireland war. The Undertones accused SLF of abusing and sensationalising the war, while SLF accused the Undertones of denying the problems. Both bands were quite unique in their own way though, and still going strong. SLF celebrate their 30th birthday with a special concert in Belfast in March. SLF had both catholic and protestant members by the way, which was unique in Northern Ireland in the seventies.
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[Gerrit]

Anyone ever saw Rammstein live? Search YouTube.com and look for "Buck Dich" live... Not for children's eyes, be warned
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[Gerrit]

Followed the advice and gotten more into Tool lately (though still prefering A Perfect Circle)

Their Aenima album is very good, mainly the song Stinkfist. The frustration in Maynard's voice during the "I don't want it, I just need it" is very recognisable. "Wings for Marie + 10000 Days" are lyrically superb, one of the most emotional metal songs I've ever heard.
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[Gerrit]

[1917]

_________________
"Nordens, nei Nord-Europas beste lag" - Dorsin.

"Undrar om Valencia kommer över mittlinjen. De får slå en långboll i så fall. Vi vinner med 4-0." - Iversen

[HeiaVincent]

The best thing about that recording is all the humming!
_________________
4-4-3

[1917]

I've never heard somebody criticize Gould's playing before. Or is it perhaps the piece itself you don't particularly like? Or is it just that you think the humming is THAT good?
_________________
"Nordens, nei Nord-Europas beste lag" - Dorsin.

"Undrar om Valencia kommer över mittlinjen. De får slå en långboll i så fall. Vi vinner med 4-0." - Iversen

[HeiaVincent]

The humming is THAT incredible. And I guess that this recording has become the authority on the Goldberg variations.
_________________
4-4-3

[Gerrit]

Anyone that likes Placebo?

Been a long-term fan of them and bought Without You I'm Nothing (their masterpiece) again today. My old copy was damaged and I have hence bought a new copy. Contains some of the best songs they made: Pure Morning, Burger Queen, WYIMN, Brick Sh*thouse, Allergic, ...

Brian Molko was the one inspiring me to wear eyeliner years ago One of those teenage things that I actually have stuck with, although in the gothic scene it's not uncommon at all obviously.
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[Gerrit]

ORPHANED LAND (Israel)

I discovered this band lately while researching Israeli stuff. This band immediately caught my attention as their music is very multicultural, more than any music I heard before apart from Natacha Atlas.

Orphaned Land mix western rock and metal, with Jewish folk music and Arab folk. Along with that, they often have guest singers reading Jewish prayers or Islamic prayer chants. The band also uses a lot of biblical verses and metaphors in their lyrics, and sometimes also references to the Quran.

Orphaned Land come from Israel and mix the different ethnical traditions from their home country: Jewish and Arab tradition along with western influences. The majority of songs deals with Middle Eastern themes although they often use religious metaphors so the actual message is not always easy to locate. The band has a lot of songs about the desire to have a peaceful co-existance of Jews, Muslims and Christians, and their best known album is a whole concept album about this: the album Mabool (which took 7 years to record!) tells the story of three men (one for every monotheist religion) warning people for a flood like in the Bible, in the end the flood does happen but it also a metaphor for a flood washing away the differences between the people of the Middle East.

This is a video of one of their most unique songs: the song contains Jewish and Arab folk while the lyrics are in Hebrew and praise the Torah and Avraham.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...4zkTmXaKrM

Those who like this should research YouTube for more Orphaned Land goodness, note though that some songs (such as Ocean Land) are a lot heavier than this but the Middle Eastern ethnical sounds are present in practically every song.

A very unique band bridging cultures, and effectively bringing people from different cultures together: despite Israel being in diplomatic war with some of the Arab countries, Orphaned Land have a large following in the Arab world and are one of the few Israeli bands that were granted permission to perform in several Arab countries.
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[1917]

Happy Syttende Mai!

All you people interested in Norway should know something about this day. Read that link

How about changing this into a general OT thread?
_________________
"Nordens, nei Nord-Europas beste lag" - Dorsin.

"Undrar om Valencia kommer över mittlinjen. De får slå en långboll i så fall. Vi vinner med 4-0." - Iversen

[2mas]

OK, now this is a general OT thread.

Happy 17 May! Hurray! Hurray!

[Gerrit]

Two weeks and I have two concerts in a few days time... Manic Street Preachers and then 5 days later Tool. Looking forward to it so much. Also, I have a date upcoming with a local girl I met. Wish me luck guys
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[Gerrit]

CONCERT NR 1 IS OVER, AND HERE IS THE REPORT. ENJOY!



RockNCoke... The name already indicates it: the rock festival is sponsored by Coca-Cola. Reason enough for some to boycott it, reason enough for me to fancy it: rock and coca-cola, two of my biggest addictions combined. When one of my favourite bands, the Manic Street Preachers, was confirmed in the line-up, I could no longer resist and decided to buy a ticket. The presence of Pentagram in the line-up the same day was a nice extra. With Within Temptation and the Smashing Pumpkins (and Turkish rock singer/eye candy Aslı) the first day of the festival it was even tempting to buy a two-days ticket, but financial reasons prompted me to stick with a day ticket for Sunday 2nd September, the day that the mighty Manics would hit the stage.

Istanbul is a gigantic city and every district has the size of a proper city in my native Belgium. When one says there are special busses to the concert area leaving from Kadikoy, this does not say much really because Kadikoy is a very big area. I asked a few people near the docks and bus stops if they knew where to find the special busses, but the few who knew did not speak English and those who spoke a little English did not know. Add to that a political event and speech next to the bus stops and the chaotic traffic also did not really predict too much nice.

Luckily my eye fell on a man wearing a shirt displaying the "God is dead" quote by Nietzsche. A Turk wearing such a t-shirt just had to be a rock'n'roll fan, I figured. Good bet! The man was indeed waiting for the same bus to the festival, and I had the luck he spoke English! He started asking around for the bus and I just followed him. We had to walk quite a distance but approx 1 hour and a lot of contradicting information later, we found the bus we were looking for. Ready to go, and 1 hour later we arrived safe and sound at the festival venue! (1 hour yes... and this is without having left Istanbul soil!)




The festival ground was a typical festival environment with a main stage and a smaller stage surrounded by a camping (for those going the full weekend) and a large grassfield for the audience. Also present was an internet cafe, a small lunapark, a gaming hall, lot of small restaurants and drinking spots, and (very convenient for the time in between the gigs) a hall full of giant pillows and sleeping bags. You could even lay down and hear the concerts as they were quite close to the stage, but of course I wanted to hear and SEE the Manic Street Preachers so I opted for a place close to the stage.



The first unpleasant surprise was that, due to the chaotic traffic (politics really are a pain sometimes!) the bus was delayed and Pentagram had already started their gig when I arrived at the venue. Too bad because although I went mainly for the Manics, I did fancy seeing Pentagram as well. I already saw their 20th anniversary concert in Istanbul 1.5 month ago and they were really good then. Pentagram is a legend in the Turkish music scene as they were the first Turkish metal band to achieve mainstream success. They are considered one of the pioneers of the "oriental metal" genre along with Israeli doom-metal band Salem. Oriental Metal is combining metal music with Middle Eastern folk influences. Pentagram were the first Turkish metal band that became a success and they have been a succesful ensemble for over 20 years now.

Too bad I only saw half of the gig now and missed "1000 In The Eastlands". With "Bir" and "Lions in the Cage" I luckily heard two other of the Turkish metal pioneers' classics. For some unknown reason they did not play "Anatolia". I was happy enough to have heard "Bir" live. As the title suggests (Bir is One in Turkish) it is a song about god/Allah and tells not to have fear in life because everything comes from the one Creator. The chorus sings "All is one, all comes from One God" while heavy guitars and pounding drums create an excellent headbanging atmosphere. Muslim Metal if you wish, although the song is more or less saying there is just one god and we are all coming from the same creator regardless of our religion. One interpretation of the song is that religion is not needed but that we should just recognise the one Creator in our own way. During the 20th anniversary gig, when this song was sung, the screens displayed elements of all main religions and not just Islam.

But I was unlucky to only see half the gig. Because of this, the Manics concert would more or less make this a concert experience rather than a festival with several gigs. Not a problem for me because I am not much of a festival fan myself, so I was happy enough to see the Manics shortly after arriving without having a long wait.



For those who don't know the Manic Street Preachers, here is a short self-written biography:

Manic Street Preachers are a Welsh indie rock band that have risen to stardom in the early nineties. Never shy of controversy, the band has reached its fame in a rather controversial way.

Formed by 4 friends from the small town of Blackpool, the Manics constituted out of James Dean Bradfield (vocals), Nicky Wire, Richey Edwards James, and Sean Moore. The band wrote lots of letters to music magazines criticising other artists, and that way drew attention from the press. Controversial statements during interviews and a glam look drew even more attention to the Welsh quartet and without having shown a lot of musical skills the band had already acquired some fame. The band made the controversial statement they would record one album, sell millions of copies and then retire. That first album was a double CD named "Generation Terrorists" and contained a few hits including the epic "Motorcycle Emptiness". The album also contained a song "Little Baby Nothing" featuring guest vocals by porn actress Tracy Lords ; the song is about how women stand strong in a society dominated by males, and the band figured Lords perfectly matched that image.

The band did not stick with its earlier statements (and the album did not sell the desired number of copies, even though it did do well in the charts) and went on to record more albums. Their peek of creativity was the epic extremely dark album "The Holy Bible" which featured a lot of songs about mental decay and society's decay. Also, like usual, the band had a strong political undertone with a strong socialist point of view that can be retrieved in several Manics songs.

By the time that The Holy Bible was released, the mental problems of Richey Edwards had reached their peek. Richey was already before showing signs of unstability when during the earliest Manics days he carved "4 Real" into his arm with a razorblade to show interviewer Steve Lamacq that the band was seriously intending their political idealism and social statements. Richey had become more and more unstable and anorexia, depression and self-mutilation were part of his life. This also reflected in several Manics songs, and on The Holy Bible several songs were about emotional problems and decay. For example the song "Faster" described automutilation with "I am an architect, they call me a butcher" (describing the act of carving with a knife into one's body) while in the song "4st. 7lbs." the band sings about anorexia nervosa with the sentence "I want to walk in the snow and not leave a footprint/I want to walk in the snow and not soil it's purity".

In 1995 the band would leave for the USA for promotional reasons. The night before departure, Richey checked out of his London hotel and left for Cardiff. He would never be seen again, and after all those years it is still a mystery what has happened. Richey had been missing now for over 12 years. His car was later found never Severn Bridge (a famous British suicide spot) and his most important posessions were removed out of his apartment. Did Richey commit suicide, or did he just disappear to start a new life elsewhere? The mystery remains unsolved to date.

The band went on hiatus for about half a year but then decided to go on as a threepiece (with the explicit permission of Richey's family). The album "Everything must go" (a reference to Richey ?) was the last album containing songs written by Edwards, and the album saw the Manics score a hit with a song that would become a signature tune of them: "A Design for Life", a song about how we took centuries to gain the knowledge we have now, but how we do very little useful with it.

"Libraries gave us power
Then work came and made us free
What price now for a shallow piece of dignity
I wish I had a bottle
Right here in my dirty face
To wear the scars
To show from where I came

We don't talk about love
We only want to get drunk
And we are not allowed to spend
As we are told that this is the end
A design for life..."

The band changed their sound and looks a bit when Edwards was gone, and the psychedelic rough sound of the early Manics days was replaced by a more standard rock sound. The political undertone of the songs remained untouched though, as proved the single "The Masses Against The Classes" which is a sort of communist/socialist anthem:

"Hello it's us again
We're still so in love with you
And yes we mean it too
Yes we're so in love with you
Hello it's us again
You thought you were our friends
Success is an ugly word
Especially in your tiny world

The masses against the classes
I'm tired of giving a reason
When the future is what we believe in
We love the winter
It brings us closer together

So can you hurt us anymore
Can you feel like it was before
Or are you lost forever more
Messed up and dead on alcohol
Hello fond farewell my dears
I hope you hear this nice and clear
Our love is unconditional
Our hate is yours to feed upon

The masses against the classes
I'm tired of giving a reason
When the future is what we believe in
We love the winter
It brings us closer together

The masses against the classes
I'm tired of giving a reason
When we're the only thing left to believe in
We love the winter
It brings us closer together"

The band had by then not only gained a reputation of very political band but also showed their intellectualism. The band has a lot of songs where a reference to a certain event or person is hidden behind almost half of the sentences in the song, while they also have a lot of songs containing statements or quotes by famous artists, politicians and other people. This makes Manics songs quite hard and difficult to analyse, but it can be very interesting to try and dissect and analyse a Manic Street Preachers song.

The band's first album without any content written by Richey was their commercial peek "This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours" which featured the epic "If You Tolerate This, Your Children Will Be Next" about the Spanish civil war (containing a quote from a Welsh farmer who voluntarely fought in the war: "If I can shoot rabbits, then I can shoot fascists"). Also, "Tsunami", "You Stole The Sun From My Heart" and "The Everlasting" became minor hits.

The band also gained fame when they became the first British band to perform live in Cuba. Their socialist image had helped them gain fame on the communist island and even leader Fidel Castro attended the concert! A DVD of that gig was released later on.

The Manics released their new album "Know Your Enemy" and afterwards a compilation album "Forever delayed", a B-sides collection and a DVD containing all videos followed. This stage of their career was concluded with the release of the album "Lifeblood". After the tour promoting Lifeblood, the band went on hiatus for approx. two years, allowing both Bradfield and Wire to record and release a solo album meanwhile. In 2007 the band returned united and good as ever with their latest studio album "Send Away The Tigers". The song "Your Love Alone Is Not Enough" (a duet with Cardigans vocalist Nina Persson) got a lot of airplay and the band toured again internationally to promote this record.

Although missing for over 12 years now, still 25% of all profits are donated to a special funds for Richey ; money he can withdraw should he ever return. This shows that the Manics are not just a band but also a close group of friends who have been best friends long before they rose to stardom.




So far the brief introduction. Now let's move on to the concert. Shortly before the gig I made my one mistake of the evening. Rather than paying your food you had to buy a card worth a certain amount of money and you used that card at all food stands. I wanted to buy a card worth 20 Lira but when I gave a 50 Lira note the staffmember did not understand me too well and thought I wanted to have a 50 Lira card. I did not know how to explain in proper Turkish that I wanted a 20 Lira card, so the misunderstanding saw me ending up with a card worth 50 Lira. Bit a loss of money and because two portions of chips and three coca-colas did of course not even use half of the value of the card, I bought a festival T-shirt as souvenir purely to have used most of the credit on the card. Oh well, that way I have a souvenir so it's not that bad.

Having consumed my chips and coca-cola, I was ready for the gig. It was just before 9.00pm when the Manics hit the stage. They opened with one of their oldest songs: "You love us" from the very first album. The second song in the list was "Everything Must Go" which sounded even better than on record as it got some extra bombast during the concert yesterday.

It was clear that the band was in good shape and James' vocals were as pure as ever. The band decided to make their first Turkish concert ever a promotion of not just their latest record but their whole discography. As a result their concert sounded a bit like a "greatest hits" summary with a lot of older songs in the setlist. They even played several songs of the very first album "Generation Terrorists" which dates from 1991 (the album that would sell millions of copies before they would break up ).

Of course a few songs from the new album were played, including their comeback hit "Your Love Alone Is Not Enough". The female vocals were done by James as well rather than having them on a tape. This meant the version sounded entirely different from the album version, with James singing the whole song rather than having two different voices. The same was done for "Little Baby Nothing" (another track from the very first album) where James also did the part that was sung by Tracy Lords on the album version.

The setlist moved on and the band was in great shape. Nicky Wire was jumping and running across the stage as usual but also James was full of energy and moving around constantly. Apart from the three Manics themselves, two other musicians (one extra guitarist and in fact the de facto replacement of missing band member Richey, and one keyboard player) completed the stage line-up.

The band played a lot of classics from the early stages of their career so the setlist included songs such as Motorcycle Emptiness, La Tristesse Durera, Motown Junk, Faster (dedicated to Richey Edwards for the well known reasons), Australia, You Stole The Sun From My Heart, If You Tolerate This...

From more recent career stages the band played Ocean Spray (written for James' late mother), Your Love Alone... and a few other tracks from the most recent album. Especially "Autumn Song" sounded fantastic and pleased me a lot, it was even one of the highlights of the evening. But in general, the new album "Send Away The Tigers" was not promoted a lot and the band opted for a collection of their best known songs during their first ever gig in Turkey.

The gig was concluded after approx 75 minutes with the "Welsh anthem" (dixit James Dean Bradfield) "A Design For Life". Or as I would say (loving that song a lot): saving the best for last.

In general I must say the concert was very satisfying and my high expectations were met without any problems. Just like during my first Manics gig, three years ago in Dublin, the band made it a very nice evening. The only songs that I missed in the setlist were Tsunami and especially the always energetic The Masses Against The Classes. Guess they had to somewhat cut their setlist short due to the fact that it was a festival and then a band has limited time on the stage. But apart from those two songs I'd love to have heard, my personal favourites were present, and the new songs sounded very good. So very satisfying gig in general. Veni vidi veci!




The final act of the evening was Scottish sensation Franz Ferdinant. On record they leave me rather indifferent but I heard they are so good live that even non-fans are convinced usually. So out of curiosity I searched a spot near the stage for their set.

Unfortunately I cannot say I am convinced and turned into a fan. The band played their songs well and I am sure FF fans will have had a great night. But the music just is not really my cup of tea. I recognised several songs and they were played as good as on record, but it just does not really do it to me. It is definitely not bad music, but it also does not move me like the Manics do. Halfway the concert I decided to relax a bit and try the sleeping bags, so I heard the rest of the concert laying down and relaxing a bit.

A 40 minutes drive per special bus took me back to Kadikoy afterwards. All in all a very nice night. OK, Franz Ferdinand did not really do it to me and it is a shame to have missed half of Pentagram's concert. But the Manics were outstanding as usual so the most important goal was met! Now on to Friday when Tool are performing in Kurucesme Arena on the edge of the Bosphorus (probably the only concert venue in the world where you can see a different continent from the stands)
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[Gerrit]

TOOL concert review

Sorry for being almost a week late with this concert review (the gig was at 7th September) but I am a busy man



Last Friday my daily routine was broken for another day with the second concert in a week's time. After the very good Manic Street Preachers concert of last week, this time it was Tool who visited Istanbul. I am a big fan of A Perfect Circle myself, who share the same vocalist with Tool: Maynard James Keenan. Because of Maynard, I gave Tool a try as well a while ago and have become a bit of a fan as well.

Tool is not the easiest band to get into. Tool are like a puzzle: complex and difficult to grasp, but once the puzzle is complete you see something very beautiful. Tool songs are often very long (their epic "Wings for Marie", my favourite Tool song, lasts 18 minutes in total!) and full of long instrumental pieces and very complex changes of rhythm and tempo. This means Tool songs often sound like several songs pasted together. Unlike A Perfect Circle, there is often no recognisable chord repeated throughout the song, Tool songs are far more complex and therefor it takes several times of listening before you really get adapted to a song. But somehow I like that complexity, it forces the listener to think and concentrate and that is something I like. Tool are a very dark band as well, while A Perfect Circle are more ethereal and mysterious but more accessible. Both share one thing: the beautiful voice and poetic lyrics by charismatic frontman Maynard James Keenan.

Beautiful is also the perfect word to describe the concert venue: Kurucesme Arena is located right on the boards of the Bosphorus. The sea is just next to the stage and crowd and in the distance you can see the Asian part of the city. The only concert venue in the world where you can see a different continent?? The perfect decor for a magical evening. A set of firewords above the sea shortly before the concert set the atmosphere perfectly.

Then, with half an hour delay, Tool came onstage. The band started off with Jambi and then immediately did one of my personal favourites: Stinkfist. The sound was excellent from the start and Tool, known to be perfectionists, were in excellent shape. As usual, Maynard (who kept his shirt on for once!), was doing some very bizarre dances on stage during the instrumental parts. Danny Carey's drumming was perfect as if it was a computer or machine, very impressive. The start of the concert was very promising. The one downside was something beyond control of the band: Maynard's vocals were not always clearly hearable because the guitars and drums were displayed too loud and the vocals could not always reach above the riffs.

Apart from that the concert moved on smoothly with songs such as Rosetta Stoned and Schism. Maynard was using the instrumental parts to consume over 1 bottle of wine. "This is the last show of the tour, I hope you don't mind us celebrating" he said, and the next thing he carried around a bottle of wine in a bottleholder attached to his pants, a bottle which he emptied completely during the show! Maynard, who owns his own vineyard, may have been a bit too drunk afterwards to remember much of this show

As usual, Tool also pay attention to the visual aspects. On the screens behind them, either artworks, light effects or fragments from the music videos (you know, the eerie videos where aliens do weird things) were displayed.

The band disappeared off stage for a short while, then to come back for the encores. During their time off-stage, a very annoying recorded electronic sound was displayed, so the return of the band was a welcome relief. Especially since the encores featured two highlights of the show: an impressive live version of "Flood" (one of the darkest and eeriest intros I ever heard!) and as last song an always welcomed "Aenima". During the encores, a laser show was done.

All in all a very fine concert although a few remarks must be made: Maynard's vocals were difficult to be heard because the sound staff had not raised the sound level of the microphone (the band sounded very heavy and loud but Maynard's voice hardly got above the very loud guitars and drums), long songs are typically Tool but sometimes the intros were lengthened and just a tiny bit TOO long, and most of all I missed the brilliant and very emotional 18 minutes song "Wings for Marie" in the setlist. Also, "Sober" and "The Pot" were not sung, which was a pity, but mainly hearing "Wings for Marie" in this magical decor by the sea would have made the evening extra special.

All in all I am satisfied, and I hope to see Maynard live again soon, but this time with A Perfect Circle. Idle hope maybe, but still... As good and perfectionist Tool may be, I remain an A Perfect Circle fan above all, and I hope after a 1.5 years of touring with Tool, Maynard can maybe find the time to reunite APC even if it were just for a short tour. Idle hopes maybe, but you never know...

A t-shirt remains my touchable souvenir of the pleasant evening by the Bosphorus.
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!

[Gerrit]

To all music fans out there: http://www.seeqpod.com/music/

Very nice website. It streams MP3's from other sites and lets you create an account allowing you to make your own playlist. That way you can log in from any computer and listen to the MP3's you saved in your playlist. Ideal for those who can listen to music at work, it is like taking your music collection with you

Of course, if you like the MP3, we expect you to legally buy it in a shop
_________________
Rosenborg, forever pride of the North!